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Do Atheists believe that morality is declining worldwide?


I see marraiges failing at record rates which is unbiblical.

I see aids spread in the 70's through homosexuality. (Abomination)

I see aids spread through drug use. (pharmacia ie "users of potions")

I see kids disobedient towards parents and elders more than I ever have.

Gays as clergy

People denying God more than ever.

I see people becoming more self centered.

The bible has marked these times exactly.
Even down the the government worshiping Baal

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Please stick to this topic. This stuff is serious.

Things are the same as they have always been. The only difference is that are way more people, and far more media coverage.

Morality is increasing. The world is getting more peaceful, inspite of the news propaganda on CNN and BBC et al.

This atheist doesn't.

I see an end of slavery. I see an end of discrimination.

Seems like we're just trading old vices to new ones. Obviously, I don't see equal rights for homosexuals or the realization that God is mythological as negatives.

Depends on the atheist, thought I would say most of what you mentioned is not in most of their moral scopes. I can speak for this agnostic in saying that morals are on the rise as people talk about individual rights more often. It's the religious fundamentalists that reduce morality.

Strange how a lot of those failed marriages are those of 'christians' hmm??

aids would probably have a cure by now if there weren't so many fundamentalists railing about it being gods punishment to homosexuals, and they actually tried working towards a solution.

delusions about living in 'end times' won't help either.

wake up people.

I see marraiges failing at record rates which is unbiblical.

(most of these failed marriages are christian. Hmmm)

I see aids spread in the 70's through homosexuality. (Abomination)

(Aids is not a homosexual disease you know. More than 80% of aids victims contracted it because of blood. Either tainted blood or needle use.)

I see aids spread through drug use. (pharmacia ie "users of potions")

(see above. Oh and do you refrain from using ALL medications? If not then don't point fingers)

I see kids disobedient towards parents and elders more than I ever have.

(ROTFLMAO!!! Yeah I've heard this too, mostly from conservative christians who's kids run roughshod all over their parents)

Gays as clergy

(and? You have a problem with that? Of course you do, heaven forbid someone should love someone of the same sex. Please, seek help for this problem. Clearly, you are projecting)

People denying God more than ever.

(that's because there is no god. Give me ONE shred of credible evidence to support it's existence. You can't because there isn't any. QED)

I see people becoming more self centered.

(yeah, especially christian zealots who try to claim that the world is getting less moral.)

No, I don't think that the global morality is going down. It's only in heavily religious areas that it's going down.

I believe morality is on the decline in America because of insane religious freaks like you.

"I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789 (Richard Price had written to TJ on Oct. 26. about the harm done by religion and wrote "Would not Society be better without Such religions? Is Atheism less pernicious than Demonism?")

People who say this are simply ignorant of history.

Empirialism, Slavery, Caste and Class systems, Genocide, World Wars, etc. etc. etc. throughout history far outweigh any current "immorality."

I could go one by one, such as small pox, the plague, and other diseases thoughout history having been far, far worse than AIDS, but it is so obvious to any reasonably educated person and only willful ignorance would result in your conclusion.

1. Part of the reason AIDS has spread so far is the church's refusal to accept condom use as an effective method to prevent STD transfer, especially in Africa.

2. Aids spread through drug use can be drastically reduced by needle exchange programs, which is why Australia has such a low rate of STD transmission, and why the US has such a (comparably) high rate. The US insists that needle exchange promotes drug use, when in fact, the rising rate of AIDS infection indicates that these people are addicts and they're going to use drugs anyway.

3. Kids are more disobedient to their elders because we're not alowed to lay the smack down anymore. Back in the day, if you mouthed off, you got the tar beaten out of you. Now 5 year olds threaten to sue. Is beating kids morally correct?

4. What's gay have to do with immoral?

5. What's God have to do with morality? Morality existed before monotheism.

FYI, atheists have some of the lowest divorce rates and born-again christians have some of the highest.

How is this serious stuff!? Marriage is a contract! Contracts are broken all the time in this world. Marriage has nothing to do with religion or morality - christians MADE THIS UP!.

AIDS is a HUMAN DISEASE! Not a homosexual or drug-related disease you ignorant retard. Plenty of sober heterosexual people have AIDS.

Kids have ALWAYS been disobediant. You are referring to the speck of time you call your life? Oh so YOU'VE seen kids getting more disobediant. Maybe your just turning into a bitter old man you friggin waste of life.

Gays as clergy! If anything that would prove my point. Why would your "god" let that happen in his/her/its' name.

People denying god...Maybe people are just wising up to the fact that religion causes A LOT of problems in this world and that instead of forcing our religious beliefs on others (i.e. the christians with their crusades or the muslims with their acts of terror in the name of their gods) we should all just live in peace and enjoy the ride.

And you are damn right I'm self-centered! I always will look out for number one but I help people in any way I can. I am a compassionate and caring person...but I do come first. I don't see anything wrong with this.

I don't believe in heaven or hell but uhh...rot in hell scum.

The hidden assumption in your question is that obedience to God's law is what constitutes morality. Nothing could be further from the truth. The God of Abraham is completely imaginary and an abomination that has been leading good people to do horribly immoral acts for thousands of years. True morality has nothing whatever to do with blind obedience to arbitrary religious authority. Truly moral people use their own judgment to insure their own behavior is consistent with the human rights of their fellow citizens. At long last, humanity has begun to create civilizations where, "God told me to do it." is not a valid excuse for murder or other such atrocities. Times are changing for the better because reason and logic, combined with the highest literacy rates in human history, are finally beginning to triumph over the pervasive ignorance and superstitions of our bronze age ancestors. By rejecting blind obedience to superstitious authority, people are finally beginning to take responsibility for their own ethical behavior, which is the actual basis of true morality.

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