If CPS does not steal children for adoption then how come...?

RCMP Investigates CAS
July 3, 2008

Here is the whole report by Canada Court Watch of an investigation into Ontario children's aid by the RCMP.

RCMP National Investigation unit reports that CAS have acted inappropriately and have wrongly taken children!

(July 3, 2008) Documents recently released were reviewed by Court Watch reporters today which clearly indicate that the RCMP at the highest level, did conduct an investigation involving the CAS in Ontario and did conclude from their investigation that the CAS had acted inappropriately and had wrongfully taken away children from their parents. In addition to this, information has been uncovered which would indicate that police at a local level where this family lives kept this report a secret until the documents were eventually uncovered. Thanks to the honestly of some good officers at the RCMP, the CAS perpetrators of this crime may be brought to justice. A number of good lawyers and police officers are now refusing to support

a family court system which even they see is out of control and unaccountable. It's only a matter of time till many of these CAS workers who engage in criminal activities are going to find themselves and their agencies facing big lawsuits as the truth begins to surface of their wrongdoings.
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Please don't adopt until the system is fixed...that is what you can do to help this is happening everywhere the proof is everywhere... instead of pressuring them to get the baby faster pressure them to find out where the child is coming from and get involved...
I should not even need to say that....

CAS, CPS, DHS or whatever they want to call themselves are vile, evil, baby stealing scum. They regularly remove children for the sole purpose of adopting them out and receiving a Bonus / Bounty from the Federal Government. They systematically devaste families, they will lie, perjure, and break whatever law necessary in order to get more children into their system. Should anyone doubt this, I can personally attest to their tactics.......in my case, they tapped my phones, hacked into my computer, intercepted my postal mail, contacted my customes and ruined my Business. It cost me every penny I ever made and more, I lost my home and Business, BUT I fought them and kept my children. I second your message.......Do not adopt from them, when there is no market, there will be no "goods" to be sold!!!!!!!!!!

Well, as I have been saying for a long time now, things like this happen all over. Not just in international adoptions. So all of you foster care only people- take a big gulp- you're a part of the mess too. And you claim you are better to be adopting through foster care.

Wake up.

If we lived in a perfect world there would not be a CPS, foster's homes or children waiting to be adopted, but we don't.
The system is not perfect, there are bad caseworkers and there are also wonderful caseworkers. If children are removed from mom and dad, it's CPS's fault, they are out to get them, if a child is injured or killed, it's CPS's fault, why hadn't that child been removed? The worker was not doing her job.
The average caseworker in our area, burns out within four years, they have case loads, of as many as forty children.
If you don't like the system, do something.
Volunteer, at a program, that helps, at risk mom's learn to parent, if there is not a program in your area, start one. Keep that mom and child out of the system.
Volunteer, to be a guadium um litem, look after the welfare of a child, that needs a voice.
Become a foster parent, some foster home's are worse than the homes, they were removed from.
If CPS is so evil, go back to school and become a caseworker that make's a difference.
DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I adopted from Ontario.
I have also lived all thru out Ontario and this has certianly not been my experience. In fact, it is the exact opposite! Children are consistently returned into abusive/neglectful/addiction family, by the court systems within Ontario. It is actually incredibly hard to have a child made Crown Ward No Access (and this is what they need to be in order to be adopted). And it is NOT I REPEAT NOT the CAS who makes this desision...it is the courts. Not only is the family of origin given a lawyer, but so is the child(ren) and it is a LONG and often not successful process in the courts to make a child CWNA. In fact, it can go on for years, as they give birth parents repeated chances at rehab, mental health care, etc.
Where did you get the info you posted? I have NOT seen this listed anywhere in any Ontario newspapers. Please state your resources.

ETA: I forgot to mention that even after we had been approved by CAS to adopt, the childrens' court appointed lawyer came into our home to do her own "home study" of us to ensure that the children would have a safe and loving home.

I don't see CPS as being evil. I think it's a system that needs a lot more help with the way they run things, but evil is not a word that comes to mind. A friend of mine was removed from her home by CPS, including her two sisters and her brother. Their mother was moving them from place to place, they lived in an easy 10 places in one year alone. Kids were not going to school because they were too busy moving around the state of Florida and South Carolina, they were living in two bedroom trailers with as many as 14 people in ONE home.
CPS took the kids, they were placed in foster homes, they ran away from these homes and were placed in more secure group homes where they get involved with some not so good kids. I think it did more damange then good, but at the same time...it's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do you let them stay with their mother who is obviously not taking care of them, or do you let them be taken away and still not be fully cared for?!

CPS and all other organizations like it need to be redone. But nobody wants to take the time and work out the kinks. So instead, we are stuck with a broken system.

We are adopting through CPS and believe me we had to jump through about a 1000 more hoops for domestic foster care than we ever did for China.

The caseworkers that we have met with are bending over backwards to get these children into safe, loving families. NOBODY is getting rich off of CPS. These people are OVERWORKED and UNDERPAID. Sadly, that is a main reason why we hear stories of children being killed by their so-called parents after they were returned to them. There just isn't enough hours in the day and the courts are very protective of parent rights.

I have googled this Canada Court Watch and found nothing, nor have I seen this in any of the major GTA papers. What is your source... or would that be you?

Your propaganda is going to hurt children who need to be adopted out of foster care. Shut up!

CPS takes children because the bio-parents are doing things that are injuring the children.

CPS IS NOT AT FAULT. THE BIO-PARENTS ARE AT FAULT.

Bio-parents are responsible for the bahaviors that land their kids in foster care.

Do you know, when a call goes into CPS, it is triaged. If it is an immediate danger, it is immediately investigated. Otherwised, the investigation TAKES TIME, so that they make sure they are getting the information. Plus, there are not enough CPS workers to just take kids.

Shut up and get your facts straight. Go look at kids in foster care. Alot of them bare physical scars from their bio-parents...and the emotional scars are even more devestating.

CPS is not evil. When you meet the people who work there, you instantly realize that they are caring people who could have worked somewhere else for more money and a lot more prestige. Instead they work to save children. I did see some mistakes at CPS. Every time a parent is taken to jail, the kids have to go somewhere. They can't be left alone. THere isn't much time for these decisions. At 11pm i got a call that a child of 11months was in the emergency room with a fractured skull. But he couldn't stay there. Mom had gone crazy. I had to wait until 4am until a doctor could release the child. So it is 4am and i have a child with a fractured skull to take home with me.

Sadly, abuses happen every day. Abuses of children, and abuses of the system that is SUPPOSED to protect them.

As long as everyone keeps on living in a dream world and thinking that these things do not happen and that every kid who's in foster care is there for valid reasons and will automatically be well taken care of, then we will continue to have children be hurt and abused by the very system that is supposed to be preventing this.

It's just a shame that nobody wants to LISTEN and actually believe that this can happen.

Well, the fight for women's rights wasn't won in a day, the fight for civil rights wasn't won in a day, and sadly the fight for all children's rights won't be won in a day, either. But thanks for being willing to fight for them.

Don't you EVER "shut up".

The concept of the systems is supposed to work. The problem is the greed and dishonesty of the people in them.

I believe that by not adopting children through these groups, it only hurts the kids who have been placed.

I do believe that any individual who adopts needs to investigate everything they can about the children they are adopting, including their case worker.

We unfortunately, live in an area where many children don't get taken out of the house when they should, and babies are getting left in cars in parking lots (July heat), because they didn't keep them.

there is more problems in usa foster care system than people ever wll know. that is so bad. it needs to be shut down. there is corruption all over and people think we're so much better. we're civilized and can't get it right. people know that now and still want to be foster parents or adopt through foster care. how about fixing the system first. torturing kids through a broken system is terrible. you are bad people. try keeping the kids with their families instead of training them to love you so they don't want to go back with their real parents.

"Please don't adopt until this situation is fixed"....

That's right, let's punish the innocent children by letting them languish in the foster care system instead.. that'll show 'em.

ours was taken into protective custody when his birth parents brought him into the hospital and told them in detail why he was there.