First of all, let us agree that victory in a conflict does not depend on the number of people you kill. It depends on a whole range of factors, from which is the meeting of military aims.
From this standpoint at least, Israel has made a total blunder. It claims it's aims are to put a stop to all rockets being fired into Israel. In order for Israel to 'win' here, it must meet this aim of its, and doing so will be very difficult - the Israeli attacks and raids have only provoked more retaliation from Hamas.
But for Hamas to win, all it has to do is fire a rocket into Israel (thus breaking the Israeli military aim).
Which leads me to question what the real motives are. This is especially so given that there is evidence to say this 'Operation Cast Lead' had nothing to do with the cease-fire and the rockets of December following Israel's breach of the truce (see http://www.creative-i.info/?p=3402 to verify this) as it had been planned even prior to the 6-month cease-fire:
"Sources in the defense establishment said Defense Minister Ehud Barak instructed the Israel Defense Forces to prepare for the operation over six months ago [June or before June] , even as Israel was beginning to negotiate a ceasefire agreement with Hamas."(Barak Ravid, Operation "Cast Lead": Israeli Air Force strike followed months of planning, Haaretz, December 27, 2008)
"Barak told the assembled lawmakers that the defense establishment spent months preparing for the Gaza operation."
鈥擧aaretz Israel News, Dec. 29, 2008
There is evidence that natural resources (in this case Gas) in Palestinian territory has been a part of the Israeli agenda:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...
This all appears to be under the general disregard for Palestinians and the 'zionist-supremacy' that Israel is guilty of, something that runs throghout its history till today:
"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937
"We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters"
Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960
"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed"
Golda Meir, Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969.
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them."
Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, November 15, 1998.
Whatever the case, we can certainly establish that Israel is playing a game of deception with the world. The question that remains is: are you buying into it? Eric M, please let the 'Little One' teach you something.
The 4 children left clinging to their dead mother were not 'islamofascist terrorists'.
The 40 dead taking shelter in the UN school were not 'islamofascist terrorists'.
The piles of dead children and babies, and the maimed and lame are not 'islamofascist terrorists'.
And nor is evry Palestinian male a 'terrorist'
There are more people invovled in this thing than just your 'islamofascist terrorists'. In your own wise words: 'it ain't just a football game, little one'.
And your expert analysis has got is spot on: the Palestinians are the one's 'causing' their own deaths, wounding and killing their brethren, women and children, flattening their own houses, and starving their own population, JUST so the world can feel sorry for them 'accidentally', and Israel has nothing to do with this at all.
Please spend some time analysing yourself and why you stand by supporting the Israeli war criminals and show no support for the oppress Israels aim is to PROVE to the world exactly how ****-headed they are and bring out the true colors of those people who back them up. So the rest of us can see exactly how ignorant and heartless their followers are. Nothing in the world justifies what they're doing. I mean, have you watched the news about Hamas? They aren't "shiny happy people." You've obviously taken the time to build your case against Israel as though this was some court of law. So let's play your little game for a moment:
What is Hamas's aim in Israel? I will tell you. This is a quote directly from the Hamas Founding Charter, Article 7, of the Hamas Covenant:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharqad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
Can you say "psychotic antisemitic terrorist organization"?
Glad to see you identify with them? I prefer to support a legally established country then these maniacs. But you have already made your decision. Enjoy! Israel wants to clear Gaza of Hamas (or so it claims) but they are handling it very badly.
Hamas is a miltant guerilla orginization not an army.....they do not have clear bases or armorys or places that will cripple them if destroyed....air strikes are utterly useless when fighting hamas.
All Israel is doing is killing innocent people and destroying Gaza infrastructure the weaker Gaza is means more power for Hamas.......Hamas is just going to be stronger and everyone will suffer. >> But for Hamas to win, all it has to do is fire a rocket into Israel (thus breaking the Israeli military aim). <<
This ain't a football game, little one.
Anyway, I鈥檓 really getting curious about WHO these people are who are supporting the Islamofacist terrorists.
1. Did you grow up in an actual Islamofacist society, and therefore you were indoctrinated, day after day after day, with schools teaching hatred of Israel every day, with government-run media teaching Israel hatred every day, with mosque sermons constantly teaching hatred of Israel? So that now YOU are an Islamofacist?
2. Were you taught by Marxists to hate the rich, and taught by racists that Jews are rich, and therefore you鈥檙e a loony leftist bigot?
3. Do you see Palestinians bleeding, and you STOP THINKING, and you want the suffering to stop, REGARDLESS of who is causing the suffering, REGARDLESS of the fact that the Islamofacist terrorists WANT you to react this way, so that you will ACCIDENTALLY support the Islamofacist terrorists, which is why the Islamofacists CAUSED the Palestinians to bleed?
4. You鈥檝e always hated Jews, and you鈥檙e so blind in this that you don鈥檛 care that you therefore give support to Muslim terrorists?
EDIT: >> The 4 children left clinging to their dead mother were not 'islamofascist terrorists'. <<
Um, are you asking me to help you go hunt for whoever SAID the children were terrorists??
鈥淚f a child is held by a terrorist who is actively firing on many other women and children, would you shoot the terrorist? Would you attempt to not hit the child in the process? Would you be upset that you hit / killed the child while you were attempting to stop the terrorist from killing other people? Would you expect to be declared a murderer and baby-killer for your actions?鈥?br>
>> Israel has nothing to do with this at all. <<
Um, are you asking me AGAIN to help you find whoever said this?
Can't you just respond what people actually SAID? It might make things clearer in your mind. Assuming you WANT things clearer. It is a turf war, and a large section of the current land of Israel was built on occupied territory that the UN and Geneva convention legally states that it has to hand back - if there was peace, and it did not have to keep a security force there. The other part was given away in a very contentious act by the UN, which the Arab population is very upset about.
So Israel wants to ethnically cleanse as many people off that land that may have a legal reason to demand the land back. |