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Are there any organizations that aren't detrimental to pushing for better treatment of farm animals?


Most animal rights groups are very bad at getting attention from the general public. A spokesperson from PETA is quoted as saying "If animal research led to a cure for AIDS...we'd be against it." They are also known for firebombing medical research labs. United Poultry Concerns is an organization that I respect for their research and progress on treatment of poultry, but they make themselves look bad. Karen Davis is known by the public as "a total nut job", allowing chickens to run through her house (some of which she stole from farms). Protesters are known to "leave a giant inflatable duck on [a poultry farmer's] lawn with a can of corn next to it" As much as I support better treatment of factory farm animals, it seems like they are more concerned with converting the whole country to vegitarianism than pushing for some more realistic results like federal regulation. When they do anything like what I described above, they look insane and nobody takes them seriously.

Are there any organizations that don't fund firebombing labs or is run by complete lunitics?

I just want to see farm animals treated better, not people pushing for an impossible result of getting everyone in the country to give up eating meat. How about regulation or some other realistic result like that?

Try the Humane Society of the United States. They aren't solely dedicated to farm animal treatment but they have been much better at getting legislation passed than those other groups you mention!!!

Here's Yahoo's link to 'not-insane' groups that help animals in a responsible fashion<g>.

(Now I get to wait for thumb-downs from the nuts<grin>)

That should say 'disagree' Report It

You are correct, sir. It does not help an organization if it's members behave irrationally. Practicing criminal behavior such as malicious destruction or assault on individuals only serves to alienate the public and discourage others such as myself form joining their cause.

Well simply because most of those protestors ARE insane. Most of them are just teenage kids who turned to vegetarianism cause it's cool.

Not eating meat isnt going to solve anything. Furthermore, just because it's not screaming and bleeding doesnt mean a plant isnt alive when they cultivate it. Vegetarians are ignorant to the fact that EVERYTHING is alive, and you can't escape killing somthing for benefit because thats the basis for exsistance.

Whatever, it'll fall on deaf ears. Why spend taxpayers money to fluff up a cow when it's going to get slaughtered...sheesh.

Ever heard of a central nervous system, Lord of the Apocalypse? Or are you ignorantly looking past that when you try to rationalize your ridiculous comparison? Anyway, unfortunately, you're absolutely correct, Brennan.

They are stupid and made of food! Therefore, tasty...we eat them for that reason. It was meant to be!

When is the last time you saw a chicken nugget tree? Eat Meat!!!

Who cares how they are treated? They don't have a lot to live for to begin with....THAT'S MY POINT! LOL

What exactly are you looking for? I don鈥檛 really understand. There are NO Animal Rights groups that fit your criteria that I know of. Besides you鈥檙e not interested in animal rights, you鈥檙e interested in animal welfare. HSUS is a welfare organization Peta is largely a welfare organization despite their claims otherwise. Welfareism seeks to improve living conditions, like what you seem to be interested in. People such as Gary Francione, would embody the abolitionist view that seeks to end the institution of animals as property all together.
鈥淕ary Francione鈥檚 work (Introduction to Animal Rights, et.al.) is based on the premise that if non-human animals are considered to be property then any rights that they may be granted would be directly undermined by that property status. He points out that a call to equally consider the interests of your property against your own interests is absurd. Without the basic right not to be treated as the property of humans, non-human animals have no rights whatsoever, he says. Francione posits that sentience is the only valid determinant for moral standing.鈥?(From wikipedia)
The difrince between Welfareism and the abolistionist view is the diffrance between giving a slave fewer beatings and better treatment, wefarism. And freeing the slave altogether, Abolishion.

Both aproches have their place, and can work together nicely. We fight for the end of animal explotation altogether wile still working to create welfare reforms in the meantime.

鈥淚f any animal has to die for food the cow is the best candidate. They are cheap to raise, generate a lot of food per life and are as dumb as posts. (No one can disagree on that, I know how dumb a cow is, there's been research on that.)鈥?

- A cow鈥檚 intellaginance has nothing to do with wheather it should be eaten or not. Consider a Human infant, most likely dumber than a cow, yet this does not give someone the right to eat the baby, nor conduct medical expriments on him or her. The real issue is not intellagince, the real issue is that he or she that you happen to eat is a cow. That is speicesism, you choose to discrimanate based on a cartioristic that is independant of the animal鈥檚 ability to suffer, and therefore should not automaticly exculde this creture from moral consideration.
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鈥淭hey are also not known to be in a state of distress prior to slaughter.鈥?br>
- This is completely untrue, ask anyone who has worked on the killing floor of a slaugherhouse that processes cows.

Think of it this way, if it was your family in those labs that animals are rescued from and burned down, you would not mind so much would you? If it was your brother, or sister that was to be skinned and turned into a fur coat, you would not be so quick to judge the people that liberate. People who claim to support equal moral consideration of animals yet condemn tactics that they believe are too 鈥渆xtreme鈥?for saving animal life鈥檚 and are willing to accept the same tactics to save human life鈥檚 are practicing speciesism as well.

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