the current health care system in the united states works just fine. There is nothing wrong with it Trust me. I am a Canadian citizen who lives in the United States. I know socialized healtcare and how much it sucks from experience.
There are un insured people in the united states but so what? do you know it would cost over 100 thousand dollars to insure the uninsured under Obama's amazing cost efficient plan? Might as well not do anything because I can assure you it doesn't cost the tax payer 100 thousand per un insured right now.
Socialized medicine is EVIL and is terrible. Its good if you have a sneeze but if you have to go into surgery or have cancer, Aids or other diseases you are totally screwed and will die waiting on line to get the treatment/surgery. for you people who think I am kidding... my dads friend died of lung cancer because he was on a line in Canada to get his tumor removed ... but his turn never came..
so why exactly do we need to reform our health care system?
btw people from around the world come to the US to get treatment. We don't, but aspiring politicians need an issue to agitate so they can get elected. Obama needs to make a case for more reckless, irresponsible spending based on dubious accounting figures. He is going to severely slash Mecicaire and Medicaid to fund his plan; not to mention raise taxes, something he "promised" he would not do in this economic environment. Everything he does is a ploy to institute the same old, tired, tax-and-spend libtard economic policies that have led us to ruin repeatedly in the past (most notably with Carter). THIS IS WHY.....
this is what Nixon Proposed you Ignorant Ditto-head~!!!
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/i... Because we have 20 million illegals with no coverage. We don't but the poor like the idea of "free" health care. btw people from the U of A go to Germany, Mexico and France for treatment they can't get here... I think we need health care reform, your not American. Your canadian, so what do you know about our country? You may be dissatisfied with Canadian health care, but there are dozens of countries that have a national health care plan that works. Try checking out Sweden, France, and Spain. Are they perfect? Heck, no, but they're a lot better than what we have here. We are paying for the uninsured right now, at a cost three times what preventive care would be. People just think we aren't because their property tax, city and state sales tax, and income tax bills don't come with a category "Money for uninsured health care." America is at the bottom of civilized countries in both life expectancy and infant mortality rates, so don't imagine health care here is perfect or better than anyone else's.
The people who come from elsewhere are wealthy and come for care the great majority of Americans would never be able to get. If your dad had been here, he might have needed a life-saving therapy that his insurance company would not have paid for. We have thousands of cases of that type here, in America, so you're not alone. (I'm sorry about your Dad, BTW.)
Don't assume that just because America is marginally better than Canada that we need no changes. There are some aspects that need fixing, but overhaul plans are totally off base. Mostly the problem is in who pays.
My wife used to work as a nurse at Maricopa County Medical Center in Phoenix. There she saw street junkies come in with endocarditis (heart infections) from using dirty needles. It was life threatening, so they were hospitalized and IV administered $3000 worth of antibiotics per day for 30 days. When they were discharged they would use dirty needles again and be back a month later for another $100,000 of the county taxpayers' money.
A few years ago I met the administrator of the medical center here in town. We got to talking about health care costs and he gave a believable explanation. Let's say it costs a certain amount to provide a certain quantity of health care. Indigents and Medicare/Medicaid patients come in and must be treated by law. Government pays pennies on the dollar for their care, so the costs must be borne by the others. Patients with major insurance come in and receive treatment for which the insurance company will pay a bit more than the government, but not enough to make up for the mandated shortfall. That leaves the private pay people, who don't qualify for Medicaid or indigent care, to pay the rest.
Those things need to be fixed, but the current proposal will simply add an omnipotent HMO to all our lives. The only reform we need will cost us nothing, in fact, all of us will save.
Reforms needed:
1. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. You are what you eat. Why should I pay your medical bills if you cannot keep you hand away from your mouth and don't exercise.
2. Tort Reform: In Theory, lawyers are there to protect us. This is the biggest joke of the century. Lawyers are there to reap big bucks, not to bring justice.
3. Doctors need to determine what tests are needed, when they are needed, and what to do. Not insurance companies who add to the bottom line for every bill they refuse to pay.
To let the Government run Health Care, just look at the VA Hospital System if you want to see Government at it's best. No easy solution.
Like everything else in America is health "care"controlled by big business interests.
All about the money.
Read the link from Joeanimal about Nixon.
The Insurance companies & HMO's profit by providing the least possible service at the highest rate possible.
There are some executive plans that do provide full service but they are reserved as rewards for CEO's who sign their company up for less comprehensive group plans for the rest of the employees.
Cannot comment on the Canadian system & sympathize w/ your friends loss , but that may have been a case of "worst first" similar to people on transplant lists who are queued up on a basis of need & probability of success,
One thing is sure in this country ;the AMA , the big carriers & HMO's will fight it tooth & nail since it would eat into their virtual monopoly.
It is all about price fixing , fine print, & cost vs risk programs run by non medical types who crunch numbers based on data fed to them by medical pirates.
I suspect a flat tax assessment for universal medical care would be less than the premiums paid out privately or in group plans.
The dirty word there is regulation.
Just like the banking industry , corruption runs deep & the situation we are in proves it.
Worked in hosptals for many years & some billing practices are obscene.
Rates are dictated as being " acceptable & customary"which translates into whatever the market will bear.
Our own fault since we have been "trained" not to question professional fees.
Have had some success by kicking bills back & asking for justification.
When they could not ,the standard answer was "must have been a billing error"
Also been through the insurance mill due to catastrophic illness & have seen it from both sides.
There are some highly skilled & dedicated doctors who would not be in the "business" without the big paydays.
Reform is needed to reach as many people as possible without ability to pay being the issue.
If we had not spent ourselves into near financial collapse on a bogus war , we could have universal health coverage for the US and Canada.
The US does have some cutting edge medical technology & highly skilled doctors which might draw international "patients" but there are other countries that can do the same as mentioned.
Best regards We need health care reform because
1. the USA pays more for health care per capita than most all other nations, yet we rank among the lowest in the quality of care among industrialized nations.
2. The health care insurance companies actively discriminate against people on the smallest, most baseless accusations. If you are overweight, or you had a sickness that has been cured, you are permanently denied health insurance for the rest of your life.
3. The cost of health insurance is so outrageous that many people cannot afford even basic routine check-ups for their children.
4. Universal health care would allow everyone to get routine check ups- reducing disease and costly problems that could be prevented with early detection, saving billions of dollars in the long run.
Listen, when you say things like "Socialized medicine is EVIL and is terrible" you sound more like Rush Limbaugh than an educated person.
Universal Health care is not Evil, nor is it terrible. Please open your mind. Look at people who don't have health care but should. Look at the trends in health care costs, look at the facts and figures. A purely private health care system is not working. This is because health care should be about the people, not the profits.
Since profits should have NO PLACE in determining who stays sick and who does not, health care should be under the government. 1. I live near the Canada border. I see people from the U.S. travel to Canada for affordable medical treatment and prescription drugs. People from Canada cross the border to shop for jeans.
2. People in the U.S. die because their insurers are primarily interested in profits. I knew a five year old girl who died because her insurance plan wouldn't pay for the required surgery.
3. If socialized medicine is evil and terrible and rotten and miserable, why haven't the Canadians voted to get rid of it? How about the British and the French? These are all democracies, are they not? |
