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Was HIV initially spread by gays?


I am told that it originally came from monkeys then it was passed on to gays who passed it to the bi-sexual types who then passed it to women then ultimately to children. Then through drug use and contaminated needles it has gone literally everywhere.

The most definitive article I have ever found follows at the web location http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_origin

AIDS origin
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Scanning electron micrograph of HIV-1 budding from cultured lymphocyte.AIDS is thought to have originated in sub-Saharan Africa during the 20th century. It was transferred to humans by a similar route as some classic Old World infectious diseases. The ancient Old World was the incubator of many diseases like smallpox because it had large human populations in close association with large animal populations, especially those that lived in herds or social groups.

Contents [hide]
1 Possible spread from animal to human populations
2 History of known cases and spread
3 Identification of the virus
4 See Also
5 Further reading
6 Notes

[edit] Possible spread from animal to human populations
HIV originated in non-human primates as far as is known.

Researchers announced in May 2006 that the HIV virus most likely originated in wild chimpanzees in the southeastern rain forests of Cameroon (modern East Province) rather than in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire), as had previously been believed. Seven years of research and 1,300 chimpanzee genetic samples led Dr. Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama, Birmingham, to identify chimpanzee communities near Cameroon's Sanaga River as the most likely originators. The researchers say that transference from chimp to human most likely occurred when a human was bitten by a chimp or was cut while butchering one, and the human became infected.[1] Calculating based on a fixed mutation rate, the jump from chimpanzee to human likely occurred during the French colonial period (1919鈥?960). Comparative primatologist Jim Moore suggests that this may have been the result of colonial practices of forced labour, which could have suppressed the immune system of the initial hunter enough to allow the virus to infect and take hold. Likewise, forced immunisations (using one needle on many patients) may have sped the virus's spread through Cameroon and beyond.[2]

A more controversial theory known as the OPV AIDS hypothesis suggests that the AIDS epidemic was inadvertently started in the Belgian Congo by Hilary Koprowski's 1950s research into a polio vaccine prepared from tissue cultures using locally captured non-human primates.[3][4] Edward Hooper rejects the dates calculated using a fixed mutation rate on the basis that phylogenetic dating of "the most recombinogenic organisms known to medical science", immunodeficiency viruses, is "inherently incapable of making any allowance for recombination". [5] However, in February 2000 one of the original developers of the polio vaccine, Philadelphia-based Wistar Institute, found in its stores a phial of the original vaccine used in the vaccination program. It was analysed in April 2001 and no traces of either HIV-1 or SIV were found in the sample.[6] A second analysis showed that only macaque monkey kindney cells,which cannot be infected with SIV or HIV, were used to produce the vaccine.[7] While the analysis was done on only one phial of vaccine, most scientists have concluded that the polio vaccine theory of the origins of HIV is not possible.

After the initial transfer of HIV from a non-human primate to humans, the virus ultimately spread via contact among humans to the rest of the world. Since a cross species jump is most likely the origin of HIV, and since HIV became a true epidemic, transmissible from human to human, then the following conditions were needed:

A large human population,
A large nearby population of the appropriate host animal,
An infectious pathogen in the host animal, that eventually produces a mutation that can spread from animal to human,
Interaction between the species to transmit enough of it to humans to establish a human foothold, which may take millions of individual exposures,
A mutation of same pathogen that can spread from human to human,
Some method that allows the pathogen to disperse widely. This prevents the infection from "burning out" by either killing off its human hosts or provoking immunity in a local population of humans.
Such requirements existed in the remote past with smallpox, and also with the 20th century Spanish Flu, despite the latter's New World origin at Fort Riley, Kansas (there the animal reservoir seems to have been two species, chickens and pigs, which were of Old World origin.)

Two species of HIV infect humans: HIV-1 and HIV-2. HIV-1 is more virulent and more easily transmitted. HIV-1 is the source of the majority of HIV infections throughout the world, while HIV-2 is less easily transmitted and is largely confined to West Africa.[8]

Both species of the virus (HIV-1 and HIV-2) are believed to have originated in West-Central Africa and jumped species (zoonosis) from a non-human primate to humans. HIV-1 evolved from a Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIVcpz) found in the chimpanzee subspecies Pan troglodytes troglodytes.[9] DNA sequencing indicates that HIV-1 (group M) entered the human population in the early 20th century, probably sometime between 1915 and 1941.[10][11] HIV-2 crossed species from a different strain of SIV, this one found in sooty mangabeys (an Old World monkey) of Guinea-Bissau.[12]

SIVs in non-human primates tend to cause non-fatal disease. Comparison of the gene sequence of SIV with HIV should therefore give us information about the factors necessary to cause disease in humans. The factors that determine the virulence of HIV as compared to most SIVs are only now being elucidated. Non-human SIVs contain a nef gene that down-regulates CD3, CD4, and MHC class I expression; most non-human SIV's therefore do not induce immunodeficiency; the HIV nef gene however has lost its ability to down-regulate CD3, which results in the immune activation and apoptosis that is characteristic of chronic HIV infection.[13]


[edit] History of known cases and spread
One of the earliest documented HIV-1 infection dates from 1959, and was discovered in the preserved blood sample of a man from Leopoldville, Belgian Congo (now Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo).[14] However, it is unknown whether this anonymous person ever developed AIDS and died of its complications. The oldest documented case of the then-unknown syndrome was detected that same year, when a 25-year-old British sailor who had traveled in the navy between 1955 and 1957 (but apparently not to Africa), sought help at the Royal Infirmary of Manchester, England. He reported to have been suffering from puzzling symptoms, among them purplish skin lesions, for nearly two years. His condition had taken a turn for worse during Christmas 1958, when he started suffering from shortness of breath, extreme fatigue, rapid weight loss, night sweats and high fever. The doctors thought he might be suffering from tuberculosis and, even though they found no evidence of bacterial infection, they treated him for tuberculosis just to be safe, to no avail. The sailor continued to weaken and he died shortly after in August 1959. His autopsy revealed evidence of two unusual infections, cytomegalovirus and Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP, later, when redetermined as P. jirovecii, renamed Pneumocystis pneumonia), very rare at the time but now commonly associated with AIDS patients. His case had puzzled his doctors, who preserved tissue samples from him and for years retained some interest in solving the mystery. Sir Robert Platt, then president of the Royal College of Physicians, wrote in the sailor's hospital chart that he wondered "if we are in for a new wave of virus disease now that the bacterial illnesses are so nearly conquered". It was only 31 years later, after the AIDS pandemic had become well-known and widespread, that they decided to perform HIV-tests on the preserved tissues of the sailor, which eventually turned out a positive result. The case was reported in the July 7, 1990 issue of the British medical journal The Lancet; their claim was retracted in a letter in the January 20, 1996 issue where they admitted that the tissue sample was contaminated in the laboratory (Corbitt G, Bailey A, Williams G. HIV infection in Manchester, 1959 . Lancet 1990; ii: 51.)[15][16] Another early case was probably detected that same year, 1959, in a 48-year-old Haitian, who 30 years before had immigrated to the United States and at the time was working as a shipping clerk for a garment manufacturer in Manhattan. He developed similar symptoms to those just described for the British sailor, and died the same year, apparently of the same very rare kind of pneumonia. Many years later, Dr. Gordon R. Hennigar, who had performed this man's autopsy, was asked whether he thought his patient had died of AIDS; he replied "You bet" and added "It was so unusual at the time. Lord knows how many cases of AIDS have been autopsied that we didn't even know had AIDS. I think it's such a strong possibility that I've often thought about getting them to send me the tissue samples."[17]

In 1969, a 15-year-old African-American male known to medicine as Robert R. died at the St. Louis City Hospital from aggressive Kaposi's sarcoma. AIDS was suspected as early as 1984, and in 1987, researchers at Tulane University School of Medicine confirmed this, finding HIV-1 in his preserved blood and tissues. The doctors who worked on his case at the time suspected he was a prostitute, though the patient did not discuss his sexual history with them in detail.[18][19][20][21][22]

In 1976, a Norwegian sailor named Arvid Noe, his wife, and his nine-year-old daughter died of AIDS. The sailor had first presented symptoms in 1969, four years after he had spent time in ports along the West African coastline. Tissue samples from the sailor and his wife were tested in 1988 and found to contain the HIV-1 virus (Group O).[23][24] The next documented western death from AIDS was that of Dr. Grethe Rask in 1977. Rask, a Danish surgeon, had worked in the Congo in the early 1970s.

According to research of old bloodsamples HIV did not exist before year 1978 in the United States of America. A very rapid spread of HIV-infections is still an officially unexplained phenomenon but HIV-infections appeared exactly at the same time in different areas of world while simultaneously matching the smallpox vaccine program of World Health Organisation (WHO) in Haiti, Brazil, and in Africa within Zaire (Democratic Republic of the Congo) the most vaccinated state also had the most HIV-infections. WHO itself started to suspect there may have been some kind of connection with its vaccine program and the AIDS-epidemic. To find out WHO hired an outside investigator who spotted a very clear connection with HIV-infections and the vaccine program. WHO never published the report it ordered and has kept its contents secret. [25]

It appears that either HIV existed in very low levels in the United States in periods prior to 1981, or it may have gone extinct in the United States at times, with the present infection established in the USA about 1976. HIV in Africa likewise was at first at levels too low to be noticed. In the United States and Africa HIV was at first mostly found only in residents of large cities. The infection is now more widespread in rural areas, and has appeared in regions such as China and India, where it was previously not evident.

Author Randy Shilts mentioned that what was later called AIDS became evident in the gay community in the Fire Island, New York area in the four years after the 1976 Bicentennial celebrations. The infection tended to double in numbers about every nine to ten months. It therefore took a couple of years before a new disease was suspected because there were at first not enough symptomatic individuals to be noticed.

The official date for the beginning of the AIDS epidemic is marked as June 5, 1981, when the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report newsletter that unusual clusters of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia had been discovered in gay men in Los Angeles in the early 1980s.[26] Over the next eighteen months, more PCP clusters were discovered among otherwise healthy men in cities throughout the country, along with other opportunistic diseases (such as Kaposi's sarcoma[27] and persistent, generalized lymphadenopathy [28]), common in immunosuppressed patients.

In June 1982, a report of a group of cases amongst gay men in Southern California suggested that a sexually transmitted infectious agent might be the etiological agent,[29] and the syndrome was initially termed 'GRID' (Gay-Related Immune Deficiency[30]). However, the same opportunistic infections also began to be reported among hemophiliacs,[31] heterosexual intravenous drug users, and Haitian immigrants.[32] By August 1982, the disease was being referred to by its new name: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS).[33] An anagram of AIDS, SIDA, was then coined for use in Portuguese (S铆ndrome da Imunodefici锚ncia Adquirida) in French (Syndrome d'Immuno-D茅ficience Acquise) and Spanish (S铆ndrome de Inmunodeficiencia Adquirida).[34] In Russian it got the name SPID (小懈薪写褉芯屑 袩褉懈芯斜褉械褌械薪薪芯谐芯 袠屑褍薪薪芯袛械褎懈褑懈褌邪) and in Irish SEIF (Siondr贸m Easpa Imdh铆onachta Faighte)


[edit] Identification of the virus
In May 1983, doctors from Dr. Luc Montagnier's team at the Pasteur Institute in France, reported that they had isolated a new retrovirus from lymphoid ganglions that they believed was the cause of AIDS.[35] The virus was later named lymphadenopathy-associated virus (LAV) and a sample was sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, which was later passed to the National Cancer Institute (NCI).[36] In May 1984, Dr Robert Gallo of the NCI also isolated a virus that caused AIDS, and named it Human T-cell Lymphotropic Virus-III (HTLV-III).[37] In January 1985 a number of more detailed reports were published concerning LAV and HTLV-III, and by March it was clear that the viruses were the same, from the same source, and was the etiological agent of AIDS.[38][39] In May 1986, the International Committee on the Taxonomy of Viruses ruled that both names should be dropped and a new name, HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus), be used.[40]

You are very welcome. Anytime I see an opportunity to disspell misinformation I take it as a challenge to give the most correct answer I can. Thank you for the compliment. Report It

why don't you research it yourself, instead of listening to everyone else?

The monkey part is right but im not sure about the rest

no, it leapt from monkeys to African villagers to African female prostitutes to probably a bisexual man to a handsome gay man (AIDS Patient Zero is what they used to call him) who in turn infected dozens of tricks, some of whom were bisexual males. From then on it spread everywhere. Not sure where the junkie element came in.

No, it was originally found in Heterosexuals who got it from the monkey( through blood in an open wound/mucous membranes is the most likely theory) who passed it to the bisexuals and homosexuals, not the other way around.

actually, the first documented case of the virus in the US was in a heterosexual woman, figure that, huh? anyways, it was somewhat inflamed by gay/bi men because back then when in California, there were many gay sex clubs/YMCA's or w/e they were. but it is not soley due to gay men/women at all. but the bi-sexual thing is probably a large reason.

HIV is mainly spread by human sexual intercourse activity, any type. Taking HIV/AIDS as a gay problem is the biggest mistake that the Regen's government had ever made, and they caused the critical situation of HIV/AIDS all over US today just because of insist on some politically right point of view.

wrong! it was initially spread...and still is primarily spread...by heterosexuals. you may want to do some research of the facts.

Okay, the spread of HIV by homosexuals is a cruel stereotype. Originally dubbed the "Gay Plague", that little name was taken away upon realization that over half of the infected were in fact NOT gay men.

The origin of the HIV virus is shrouded in mystery.

There are two prevalent theories.

Hunter theory suggests that an unknown pathogen made a species jump from chip to human either during handling of the animal, or butchery of the animal.

Another very new and controversial theory suggest that HIV is a mutagen of SIV than jumped to humans through a "porthole" in this case, Polio. During Polio vaccine experimentation in Chimpanzee livers potentially infected with SIV, it is thought that SIV used polio as a sort of genetic instruction Manuel, and through mutation made the jump to humans (It is much more technical, research it yourself). It is thought that then, contamination of a human took place, and the pandemic was set into motion.

But to answer your question. NO. HIV does not come from gays. The only validity to that statement is that aids is most easily spread from liquid to solid contact. (Semen to any inner wall tissue). In this case it is particularly convenient from individuals to propagate that HIV is best spread when seminal fluid coming into contact with the walls of the rectum during anal sex.

However, I again say, NO, HIV is NOT spread by homosexuals.

There is no telling where this disease came from. I personally have dismissed the whole monkey's to humans idea. Like my fave comedian Dave Chapelle said, no body f**k's monkeys and people. Once you have sex with a monkey (like that would even be easy) that's a firm decision!!!! But seriously, I think it was a government thing gone terribly wrong. What their point was, how it got so widespread, only the CIA knows.

The story I herd was that a gay man with AIDS came back from Africa and seduced a women on the plane back then had sex with her at a motel. In the morning she woke up and he was gone and he left her a note saying that she now had "the gay plague". It then spread to a lot of others. This may be true or just a urban myth. It is the only thing I have herd about that.

HIV/AIDS origin lays in rural China in 1977- Xiang-hou Province - where research scientists wanted to test the theory that evolutionary biology compels humans to re-adapt to differing strains of viruses - they experimented on gibbon apes - the molecular structure of the strain of virus that causes influenza mixed with DNA of the apes - and HIV was born.

The Chinese scientists did not have access to controlled conditions and the virus was passed on to humans.

HIV originated in chimpanzees not monkeys. The virus jumped to humans when humans began hunting and consuming them in Africa. The virus is spread by unprotected sexual contact with an infected person or contact with infected blood, etc. While it is true the virus was first detected in the gay community, it wasn't called HIV then. They called gay pneumonia back then. No one knew exactly what was causing gay men to suddenly start dying in high numbers. And frankly, no one cared to find out. The CDC sat on their collective butts and did nothing as direct by president Regan. Who got those lovely Christian words that it was clearly "God's punishment for being gay." He was wrong. For 10 years, no one bothered to do anything. Until one day straight white people started getting for an unexplained reason. When the blood supply was found to contaminated, overnight, HIV became an instant "public health crisis."

The CDC has now changed the way it handles these types of situations and thats the reason you don't know anyone who has died of the SARS and/or the Avian Flu. All it took was the lives of a few million gay men and few thousand documented cases of straight people getting HIV. Had the World Health Organization and CDC contained HIV when it first appeared, no one would know what it is. They failed.

No, it was initially spread by Republicans, Right-Wing Gun Nuts, Baptists, Conservatives and a guy named Hankie from Montanna.

THEY are the true monkey-f**king scum of the western world!

No... Our government created it to exterminate Homosexuals and Blacks... According to Dr. Boyd Graves: http://www.boydgraves.com/

HIV is spread by people having un-safe sex and sharing dirty needles.

The first part of your story is correct. The last half is confused. It was found that a unsolved medical death of a child was linked to HIV. The kid died in the 60's. The Epidemic did not start till the mid 80's by drug use.It was first neatest and diagnosed in the Gay community. Later it was found that an equal number of undiagnosed deaths in the straight drug use community. It then showed up in the medical blood donated at that time.cases appeared to reach back to 1980. Sins it is transferred by body fluids it is transferred by straights as well.In the 90's it was found in the remains of a Saber tooth tiger. And the remains of a Neanderthal. It has bean killing us for millions of years.

No, it's bigger than that. If anything it seems that the WHO had a vaccine program that spread it around the globe, and wherever they were with the vaccine, new cases of HIV spread.

It does seem true that someone spread it in the LGBT community early on, I've heard it was a male steward, all that flying around all the time and having sex spread it there.

But originally it was spread to heterosexuals. You can't argue this because the LGBT community didn't exist in it's current form back when it was first around.

Here's the basic history though, it is a fascinating read, they talk about the first documented people to have it, and how the doctors of the time saw something ominous in the distance, a new disease. It's really fascinating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_H...

But whoever told you that was telling you boogeyman stories. They don't know the whole information. If it hadn't been for the free love movement of the 70s which was embraced by homosexuals, it would've spread more rampantly in heterosexuals.

Well... i goes a little something like this a gay person went to Africa and ate a monkey that was not cooked all the way so the blood infused with his blood and HIV came about. So back in the day they had these things called "Baths". That is a place that gays had unprotected sex and that's how it spread, when there are gays there are bi's so the bi's had sex with the other people and that is how it was spread.

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