What do you think of a man with AIDS sleeping around & not disclosing his condition?

What do you think of a 43 year old gay man, having unprotected sex [OR purposely sabbotaging the condom] with anyone, and not disclosing that he is HIV positive?

This man is really angry & hurt, and admitted that he "wants others to suffer" like he is.

Also, is this true - he tells me that he is NOT required by law to disclose!!

WTF??? Isn't this pre-meditated murder??

My relationship with this person was counsellor/ client, so I was bound by confidentiality.

It was in Australia, where the law is clear regarding some aspects, like once diagnosed the clinic will inform previous partners [if you can remember or even know who they are]. But in regards to post-diagnosis behaviour, there doesn't seem to be a LAW. Even so, by the time someone found out they had contracted AIDS, I doubt they'd be able to identify him [booze + one-night-stand syndrome].

With his current behaviour, no, i don't know who his partners are, & neither does he - he's just bar hopping to see how many he'l l "get" in one night. Also, even though he's gay, he's sleeps with women as well.

Technically there is not law stating someone has to disclose their condition to their partner so in a technically aspect hes right and in a sense it is premeditated murder. I'm not sure if he contacted HIV the same way hes passing it on but I personally believe its a very selfish thing to do. My brother died in a car accident do to someones elses carlessness but I don't go around causing accidents to hurt someone else. From a revenge stand point if your hurting the one to hurt you I don't justify it but its understandable, but when you bring other people, innocent people into it, its a selfish and unhumarity thing to do. I don't know if you know this peson personally or what the story is but I believe you should report him to the local authorities so action can be taken.

He is required by law if he knows to let his partner know. If it ever comes up in a court of law that he knew he had HIV and was spreading it inentionally, YES he can be prosecuted!

wow what a a** hole

I don't know if it's required by LAW to disclose such a thing - it should be! - but it's definitely required as a DECENT HUMAN BEING to do so! Seems like maybe I've heard of people being sued for not disclosing such a thing, and I think that's more than fair. If you're sick, your partner(s) should know that up front. I wouldn't call it pre-meditated murder, but I'd definitely call it being reckless and heartless.

he lies. anyone knowing they have aids and purposely has sex to give it to another is committing pre-meditate murder.

if you know this person, I would call the authorities. if you know him via web only, then I am sure he is some 12 yr old who thinks he's cute or something.

I think that man needs to be reported to the police. I think they charge people like that with attempted murder but I am not positive on that.

He can be declared a "menace to the public health". He can be stopped, and he SHOULD be stopped. This is ILLEGAL behavior - please report this person to the police, even if its anonymously.

No he has to tell them if people find out that he's doing this they can sue him for everything he's got...and he'll die in prison from aids.

dirty murderer. If he is also sabotaging the condom that is really like going around with an infected syringe and stabbing people. I'd report it to the police if I were you, or one of those clinics or something. Do it anonymously.

I don't know if it would be considered pre-meditatded murder or voluntary manslauter, but I do know that it is required by law that he pre-disclose his condition. He is purposely and willfully putting others at risk. You should turn him in to the police.

Yes, in this state, that constitutes first degree murder, if the other person dies. First degree attempted murder if they even have sex with this person, and this person does not disclose their condition.

Not only is it unlawful to withhold such information, it is highly immoral. What the heck is this person thinking? Intentionally spreading a deadly disease out of spite.

It is not anyone Else's fault but his, for having unprotected sex, or doing IV drugs with a dirty needle, in the first place. If he contracted this disease from any other means (like being in health care) I truly feel sorry for this individual. That still does not make his actions excusable.

In the state he lives in, he might just be correct saying he does not have to disclose any condition. If I were entering into any "high risk" situation like this, there would definitely be some tests done, and proof shown before anything happens. I am not gay, but the disease can still be spread heterosexually. It really put a damper on promiscuity for me, but the fact I am clean and disease free is a good trade off for the alternative.

don't mine about others just take cares of yourself. It seem so as pre-meditated murder , it's his freedom-rigths to himself not to disclosing. To the way he had behaved showed that he is angry to himself and by sabotaging others was the only reason that he think could do good to his feeling of abnormal.

I do believe he is required by law to inform anyone he sleeps with about the disease he has...everyone is regardless of the disease.

I honestly don't know if it would be considered premeditate murder, I suppose it would be only if the person got HIV/AIDS and the died from it. Though in my opinion, it is attempted manslaughter in the very least.

I think that it's immoral to do some thing like that to any one.

People have the right to know if a person that they are going to be with has aids or not. Any one that has this aids/HIV must share that information with any one that they are wanting to be with as the other person has a right to know.

I know some one who has Aids and I don't think that he cares if he gives it to some one else, he seems to have become so angry. I use to work with him a few years ago, and thankfuly we were only friends and that was all. He can not seem to grasp that most normal people are not going to want to have s*x with him knowing that he has Aids. He did have a girl friend for a while, I think that she was crazy I hate saying that but I think it's true. Any way he told he that she was trying to get it, she wanted to go on disability. NUT JOB!!! Any way, she started stalking him and he got angry after a while he told me, "I hope that she gets it!" I said come on Tom, you don't really mean that! He didn't say any thing else after that like, I'm kidding. I really believe that he ment it. It scares me to even think about it.

I can not be friends with him any longer knowing that he's gotten to be like this. I don't see him since he's in another state and I'm glad for that.

It hurt me to learn that he has Aids, I felt so sad inside as he was always such a good guy before. He is straight, but he slept with a woman that used to have a boyfriend that was an IV drug user she didn't tell him this.

Some times people feel like because some one gave it to them then why should they care if they give it to some one else. After all it has ruined their life.

I do believe that it is against the law to have sex with some one knowing that you have Aids/HIV and not disclose that to the person. Because once you know that you are infected it is your responsibility to inform any one that your planning on being with that you have either HIV/AIDS or you can go to prison for murder. Since it is murder, as it will kill the person.

The law can prove out that a person knew that they were infected, so that they should have been able to inform the person of their condiction before hand. Records are kept of people who have this disease.

That is one reason that I say, ladies please bring your own condoms with you so that you know that it has not been damaged in any way before hand. No holes have been put into the condom, via a pin prick. After all how would you know that this has happened if the man is the one who brought it with him. No offense to any man, but I would rather be safe than sorry any day.

God bless!

With today's drugs, being HIV+ isn't necessarily a death sentence anymore. It's more of a chronic illness that needs constant monitoring, like diabetes.

So, should the perpetrator be put on trial for murder? No.

Should the perpetrator be put on trial for reckless endangerment of others? Yes.

(And, remember, the prosecutor would have to prove the guy knew of his condition at the time of sexual contact. The disease sometimes doesn't show up in test results until six months after infection.)

It is my understanding that there is no federal law that directly addresses this situation.

I agree with you. There were recently two straight males in Ontario, Canada who slept with women and infected them with HIV. One male was accused of sleeping with 20 or more women and telling them he was healthy. He was charged and is awaiting a court decision to see if he will be considered a dangerous offender.
They should be charged with attempted murder or at the least torture.

I don't know in America, but in most of Europe, you go to jail for that.

And I don't understand why people point out that it's not technically murder. People DIE from Aids. Do you rwally think you're cured if you take those treatments? The treatments to combat aids are very heavy, and you don't really have a "normal" life.

I would report this person to the police. It's horrible.

I think he could be prosecuted. There was a similar case with a man who had HIV who purposely slept with 20 other woman to give it to them intentionally.

Do you know the men he is having sex with? If so, why have YOU not told them about this guy having AIDS? Because you know he has unprotected sex intentionally to make others suffer, you are technically aiding and abetting him.

Not only do you need to tell the authorities, but you are now obligated to tell them men he's having sex with.

Don't wait for him to tell them. He won't.

YOU TELL THEM!

This is so wrong and disgusting. If it's not legal then it definitely should be!

I don't know about the U.S., but in Canada, this man would indeed be charged. He should have gotten some therapy for his desire to make others suffer.

What a sad and scary place we live in, huh?

I can understand his anger, but that is no reason to inflict his pain on others - how evil and selfish can you be???
The fact that he is angry doesn't give him the right to have others suffer needlessly.
What an ******!
This makes me sad - and who's to say he hasn't already infected someone else?

I would go to the authorities, and another suggestion would perhaps use the power of the Internet to get the word out about this guy! The police have all these things for fugitives; sounds like he needs to have his face plastered every where as a warning as to not to come in contact with him in clubs or wherever he frequents. Like a Most Wanted poster.

This link will put to rest the legal question.

its required he tell them....
it is pre-meditated murder and a bunch of other offenses which he would spend his time in jail for...
wtf?!?! he wants "others to suffer". it was his own fu##king fault for getting AIDS nobody elses. he needs teh death penalty right away if his that hurt and angry.