Is South Africa running out of Proud South Africans?

This is a serious question.

If we look at the population stats for South Africa...

http://www.southafrica.info/ess_info/sa_...

...then we figure in the people with HIV - as well as babies being born HIV positive...

http://www.pgaf.org/pressreleases/south_...

http://hivinsite.UCSF.edu/global?page=cr...

...then we take into account the rape epidemic...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_ra...

...and specifically the monstrous phenomenon of child rape...

http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2002/ap...

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/200...

...then we figure in your everyday crime statistics...

http://www.christianaction.org.za/articl...

...and the coming famine...

http://www.msnusers.com/crimebustersofso...

...how soon will you run out of Proud South Africans?

Kim - when does the sorting out process begin luv?

Although South Africa sells itself as a Democracy that is not the case as will shortly be shown in the Cape Town Mayor debacle. South Africa is a de facto Kleptocracy and all of these correct and relevant factors you point out mean nothing to the elite who continue to line their pockets at the expense of the majority. In many respects I feel very sorry for those Proud South Africans who respond on this site as they are unwilling to accept the reality and fate of South Africa and solutions like "work together" do not mean a thing in a Kleptocratic State. The elite will agree to anything as long as the personal coffers continue to be filled. The latest joke is Mbeki getting a 15 minute spot at the UN and berating Western Governments for the poverty in Africa. He of course did not mention that he flew in in his personal R600 million jet,that he is about to move into a R22million house,the black Mercedes he drives,the security surrounding him etc.etc. Nor did he mention the 1000+ AIDS sufferers dying every day in South Africa whilst under his instructions not to issue ARV's. They distort the HIV figures,the Crime Rates,make false claims about their HIV/AIDS programme being the best in the World which have now been rubbished by experts showing that many African Countries are further advanced than them with their Programmes and so on and so on. The Zuma debacle is just another episode in a continuing downward spiral and guess who the next President will be? The end is nigh.

Are you dumb or something? We are proud South Africans but that does not mean that we are proud of the crime and HIV/AIDS. We have other things to be proud of and other things to make us smile and laugh about. If you're going to continue to look at the negatives then do so, while you are getting angry and unhappy about those statistics I'll be living a great life in South Africa as a PROUD SOUTH AFRICAN! There is more to South Africa than those terrible statistics. South Africa will sort that out, you'll see!

Have you ever been to South Africa. Stop believing everything you read and come and see for yourself. It is not nearly as bad as the newspapers are making it out to be. We are no different to any other country(Besides being the most beautiful country) The same you read about South Africa and worse we read about other countries all over the worl. By the way where are you from.
If South Africa was so bad why did a foreign company just make a bid of R7 billion for the waterfront in Cape Town(most beautiful city in the world) Think about that.

I am sure this is a serious question....and with SERIOUS thought I would like to ask you to please keep in mind that every country has crime even the States and I'm sure they have more then us, WE WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF PROUD SOUTH AFRICANS cause we are a proud nations that stand together as one UNITED RAINBOW NATION, yes I agree with a couple of answers have you EVER been here if not how on earth can you judge our country or are you one of those idiots that read that we live among wild animals in our streets, if that was the case you can think by yourself how priviledge we would have been if we were even able to tame our wild animals, btw do u have the BIG 5 as we do? Do you have a table mountain or Cape Town which was btw voted as the pretties city in the world do you have any idea how many foreigners comes to SA to enjoy our fine foods, wine, hospitality and our awesome weather...Did we ever "give birth" to people like Ted Bundy, the Manson family or any of the over a thousand serial killers you have? NO I don't think so...Does our government interfere in other countries and the way they are been run, NO we don't we keep to ourselfes to we have the amount of enemies the States have, once again the answer is no we don't...Before copy and pasting links of SA please copy and paste links showing that your country is anything better then our country, everyone in our country is PROUDY SOUTH AFRICAN and should we run out of them trust me that will not happen cause we love our country which btw has the freshest air, we loyal people we have hamorny among us...Do u have that I doubt it....Get on a plane and come visit SA and tell me you didn't love it here the humor and kindness of South African's will and can not be found in any other country, for the Americans are arrogant and selfish the UK people are snobs and I think if they are scared if they should laugh there faces will crack, here in SA we dont have that we just have smiling faces all over the place.....Grow up and get a life....and reather check your country and ask yourself if youre proud to be staying there....

You said before you left SA 16 years ago.
Now if I remeber right Hillbrow was quite posh in the 80's, before the taxi rank arrived?
Hmmm..... Brad a toff?

Whatever your statistics are im still a proud South African and i know of many more!

I left SA but I am going back for a few years to study.... however I am not proud... the crime that goes on is disgusting, its not normal, I mean its violent crime and the goverment says "if you don't like it, leave " so I think with an atitude like that more and more people are going to leave... how can they be proud?

I am still not sure why the hell I am going back... I guess I just think maybe there is still a chance for SA.... hope so...

Sorry to say my "friend", but if the family still stays in Hillbrow, then no wonder you are such an ***. Either that or you are not staying in South Africa, which makes you: Someone who cant say anything about us!!!! When last did you participate in an election in South Africa, It amazes me how all lunatics who is badmouthing South Africa doesn't even live here.

If you are in South Africa, maybe you should move out of your pathetic dark hole you're living in and feel the Sunshine!!!!! Obviously you are an *** not knowing what to do with yourself.

How about the our stinking coverment.But take all that out see the sunset the animals.The possibilaties,the future in the peoples eyes.
Woman standing proud fighting for themselves.Food you can only dream of.and the peace and harmony when you and your friends sit around a fire having a braai while the animals are calling to the moon and the starsshine brightly.No where else will you find that.

You live in NYC? Me too. Let's meet up and I can tell you MANY stories about living in NYC and what has happened to me.

I get SO sick of people bringing South Africa down. You left to escape all of it (and in some way, I did too), but I will NOT go on and on about the negatives in SA. Yes, I was hijacked. And yes, I am black. But my god, you have no idea what I had to deal with living in the States! I lived in Japan for 3 years and that was "relatively" safe. Then the UK and well.... living in London...constantly holding my handbag close to me..... I could go on all day. But what will that achieve!? Good god, get over yourself. Let's talk about how can improve the situation. I am sure that you want a better life for your relatives back in SA. I want the same for my mum and sisters who still live there.

Le's unite against crime, not constantly ***** and moan about the situation while we sit in our penthouse suites in Manhattan.

A person can live in any country other than their own and still be proud of where they come from!

Brad, don't you have anything better to do with your time? Why can't you just stop with your accusations? You don't live there anymore, so what is your problem? I know some of your family does, that is their problem!! If your family has a problem with SA, why don't they just move to the States? If you can give solutions, fine, if not, just stay quiet!! Thank you and have a nice day!!

EDIT:

You still didn't answer my question, what is your big problem with South Africa?

I think so but i will hold on to my status as a proud SA!

What do u think about the Zuma case?

Dear Mr Morris,
As if we DON'T have enough negativaty in the news already! Please stop bringing us down! Rather engage us in uplifting ways to improve this country of ours...but hey it is easy when you are in another country to throw stones is it not...we are faced with all this EVERY day and still we try and keep on hoping that things can get better...so INSTEAD of bashing us and being negative for goodness sake - give us possiitvie things that we can try!And if we say we are proudly South African it DOESN'T mean we agree with what is happening in the country with crime, AIDS our goverment etc...it just means we love our country and every one of us wants the best for this country! Enough said.

Im stil proud, no matter wat. its my home, wer i was born, wer i lost my 1st tooth, wer i lost my virginity, wer i learnt, wer i made frends, wer i was born an wer i wil die.

Im not proud of da crime, but who wouldnt stik up 4 der own cuntry?

South Africa will never run out of Proud South Africans. Instead, Proud South Africans are getting bigger in number.
I am Proudly South African, and will always be. That's my true identity.
As it looks, you've got identity crisis.

they'll have 2 get rid of me first be4 we'll run out of proud boerekinders! so crime and aids are a problem, but other countries have other problems. lig op julle koppe mense : 2 men were in a prison sell : one looked down in shame and saw mud. the other lifted his head with pride...and saw stars