If God created a cute little worm?

..And god created a poor little child. Why did god 'intelligently design' the parasitic worm to best live in the little boy's eye? Presumably, if the boy has free will but the worm doesnt and the boy didnt wish the worm to be there, then who is to blame for this horrid 'mis-creation'?

David Attenborough met one such unfortunate little boy and cannot believe in gods existance with this example in mind.

Also, is HIV a product of creationist intelligent design or do you deny its existance? ..Id bet my horse and cart you cant answer that one logically!

First of all, 'free will' means that you are free to do as you desire, not free to have other things follow your wishes. The little boy may practice 'free will' in removing and killing the worm. And part of the reason I don't believe in the 'typical' idea of God that most theist faiths espouse, is because of this very sort of thing. Although, one might suggest that God did such a thing to show that only he is all-powerful, and that we can never truly know his thoughts. Perhaps the little boy will grow to be a doctor who finds a way to let the worms live in a different environment. If so, do we then have a situation that is good? Is the boy really unfortunate, or has he been given a unique opportunity to help others? You ask a good philosophy question.
The HIV question can be answered in much the same way, athough you don't allow for the option that it is NOT intellignet design but I do believe it's existence. But I'll stick with the spirit of the question. I'll assume that we're talking about the God of the Monotheists - the Christians, Jews, and Muslims. If you are following their belief, in a very strict manner, HIV could indeed be designed intellignetly. HIV, originally, was most readily spread among those who the Bible and Koran consider to be sinners - those who have extra-marital sex, and those who engage in drug use and other dangerous activities. Please note, I am not suggesting that HIV is limited to these groups, nor am I suggesting that I believe what I type - I do not. I am mostly Pagan, and bisexual, so I'm not 'dissing' gays and 'unbelievers'. But if you follow the premise of the question, that there is intelligent design and a 'god', then the religions who follow that god could easily believe that HIV was created to destroy those who do not follow their religion "religously".
(Side note: I do know that there are other ways to contract HIV. But I once heard a Christian say that there was always "collateral damage" in a war, and this was a war for 'our' morality and values. Sad.)

"Paganism" describes a wide range of philosophies, some of which do include witchcraft and sorcery. I believe in god, just not what most people think of when you say 'god', which is why I say 'mostly pagan'. Report It

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What?

You are not blaming God, are you?

Well it looks like you get to keep your horse and cart,,because I'm baffled

first off you didn't ask the question logically you idiot... secondly you're stupid existential question is lame.. there are more intelligent avenues of that idea.. its funny that you think your an intellect but your grammar f*ckin sucks

if there was a god do you think it would allow one man to kill so many thousands of are children in a false war?

say what?

You do make a very good point.
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You are asking people WHO LIKE YOURSELF don't know all the answers.
So what is your true motivation for asking?
I'll say it.
You are so smart. You are better than everyone else who thinks differently than you.
You are superior.
Now go away.

Everything God created was originally in a perfect state, however, man does co-create. What thoughts we entertain do indeed manifest into our reality. Man is responsible for all the evil in the world today, not God. Man decided through his free will to think and act like flesh and blood man instead of spiritual man. We are suffering the consequences for that decision.

I have asked questions like that a lot and all they do is blame Eve.

Okay, the parasitic worm and HIV is a product of evolution. Does that make you proud? Very strange indeed.

It sounds to me as if your not ready for a real answer. Your the type of guy who thinks he knows it all already and no matter what intelligent explanation you receive you'll probably just dawg that somehow too! When your ready to really learn about GOD why don't you personally take it up with him, he's listening the real question is will YOU ever be ready.

IDK
Christians and scientists will understand one day.

Check out Clark Ashton Smith's The Dark Eidolon. A poor little beggar boy is trampled down by the horse of the evil prince, who is also the same age. As they both grow older the beggar boy, permanently crippled, holds resentment in his heart and eventually comes back to kill everyone and torture the prince as revenge. It is neat how Smith turns the tables in this story; a nice, innocent child starts out as the hero but ends up as the antagonist due to a simple grudge.

I don't believe this answers your question, but then again you weren't asking a question to begin with, you were just posting an atheist rant. What will happen to your hypothetical poor little boy? Will he grow up to be evil too simply because you don't think God exists? And all because of this hypothetical worm and a grudge against a God that doesn't exist.

This whole physical existence is designed to awaken the spirit and pain is the way and living with pain is how we become individuals... The body doesn't live, it is only dust and water, use it and treasure your soul.

Let's theorize that god exists. He made the earth for some unknown reason and created everything that there is, and then set us loose. Throughout the years we abbused what god had given us and had created the idea of war, jealousy and other such things. So now basically god is slowly getting his cheap laughs from making little creatures that burrow into the skull of small children. Thus god can now exist... it think hehe :S

Everything that God created was "Good, very good!" in his own eyes, of course! Not long afer creating man God says... Hey it is "NO GOOD" that man is alone! In all humbliness God admits his first glitch... Adam didn't like any of the animals that God created for a mate for him... So God said "no good" twice and created Eve... He did a lot of mid-course corrections all along. He "repented" of having created mankind on the Earth so he decides to kill every single innocente animal, bird, baby, people and what have you to correct his glitches... and we are still here... wait and see what else is going to happen next.

Dr Quills, you are wasting your time here on answers, these religious zealots have an answer for everything, usually involving a guilt trip for mankind, as it's always our fault, never their gods! don't bother, you can't change their blinkered attitude!

If we were created perfectly and without need of help, would anyone care about that boy's suffering? We would want to get that parasite out of his eye without damaging the eye. Because that's what we would want someone to do for us if we were that boy.

I am not familiar enough with the idea of intelligent design to answer your second question. I always thought that it was a chastisement. You want to argue with God? Take it up with Him. Maybe He'll give you a dispensation or something. Maybe not. That's why He's God and we're not.

And so many rich men would rather spend their money on golden toilets, than to help a village have clean water to drink and bath in..
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Now, my guess is this child got the cute little worm because he lives in poverty. He lives a short disease ridden life, while we in the western world, including David Attenborough live a life of wanton waste. If we were to share our resources the kid wouldn't have the worm to begin with..God's fault or OURS?
HIV..is horrible. It is especially horrid when it is a child that has it because his drug addicted mother gave it to him. Who's fault. God didn't want mom to be a prostitute and use drugs..
This life is far from Heaven, but man makes it hell through greed and all the other "sins".

God meant to drown the nasty worm but Noah saved it due to a clerical error.

I love these questions - people like you are the mint sauce on the Lamb of God!

Your question could be a very good title for a book, really. You could be a billionaire, at least!!! (give me a bonus, won麓t you, as I came up with the idea, well sorry, that was stupid, must admit). Of course no human understands about this our so called world and what麓s happening while I write and you read this,what麓s time, life, eternity, could Einstein explain something of this our so called world, really? If you can explain them to me, I would be so satisfied and could die in peace, because I would not have any interesting, unsolved questions to think about.

How come the "Big Bang" happened, there must have been something there already or this "explosion" would not have happened, if it happened? How come there is an earth, oceans, sky, moon, sun etc., from where did that tiny, whatever cell or what you want to call it,come from that lead to things like the little worm, dinosaurs, apes = "Adam and Eve" = us stupid, pour people with brains that we hardly know how to use? We live for a while, new humans are born, more and more. (More HIV, our own stupidity!) Can our globe take it, or is there a new "Big Bang" in sight? If so WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT, will the earth "recycle" itself, will there be a new version of "Adam and Eve" (a new version of the fairy tale), or a "BIG "NOTHING" and is "NOTHING" "SOMETHING", you tell me what that "SOMETHING" would be, OK? Really was a pleasure writing to you! Warm greetings and a piece of advice from one human to another: "Carpe diem"!

HIV is a disease alright but, would not be epidemic if people obeyed Godly principles concerning fornication. In fact, would barely be noticeable. Created perfect, humans would be resistant to all diseases if Adam had just kept obedient to God's rule. Instead, he left the protection of God for ruling himself. 6,000 yrs. later, after trying every sort of government, man has come down to the conclusion we cannot rule ourselves.

I don't understand your reference to a parasitic worm, but both things exist. In any case, man is to blame for our own disasters from turning away from God way back at the beginning. God has allowed both Satan and man to try to deal without Him. The world is in darkness and ignorance. (1John 3:8; Eph. 4:18) This will not always be the case.

The Bible promises God will again take charge of things to accomplish what He desired in Eden. Revelations 21:4 shows how on the cleaned up planet, earth, He will wipe out every cause of tears and pain from those alive and resurrected at that time. I would like to discover the proper purpose of mosquitoes.

Call it " Wrigley"
What a nice name for a chewing gum.
All the little ones love it.
What do you think?

Ok. I found your question here. I'll give you some background so that you know up front where I am coming from. I was raised in a Christian home, and remained so afterwards. I don't currently consider myself a Christian, though I have formed my own spiritual path. Essentially, this is my prime directive: The Immediate Equalization of All Knowledge Among All Beings. I now evaluate everything within the context of that credo.

But to your point, this is an answer I gave someone else concerning the issue of creation. I hope that at least you will read and consider it. I am not preaching to you or anyone else. Just attempting to convey my understanding of our situation.

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The Question:
Why did God (according to the Bible) cast Satan out of heaven?

I'm trying to understand why God would cast Satan down to earth
and then create mankind to inhabit earth, putting his precious new
creations in the presence of a being that has tried to undermine His
authority? Did Satan arrive after mankind, or before? For what
purpose did God have to allow mankind and Satan to co-habitate? Was
He testing us?
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My Answer:
This may be very unpleasant for some, but I will pose it anyway. I
understand your question, as I have asked it myself over many years
of speculation. So here it goes.

After the rebellion had started, there needed to be a way to combat
the accusations that had been made against God by Satan. But for
reasons of security, it was best that this conflict be contained.
Personally, I see the earth project as a petri dish environment, in
which the bacteria of the rebellion could be examined by all sentient
beings throughout the universe, without directly subjecting them to
further contamination. That may seem harsh, but it is nonetheless
very logical. Having a new species without prior experience with the
nature of God, provides the perfect opportunity for the character of
God to be evaluated regarding righteousness and the charges made
against it. God could demonstrate in a conclusive manner exactly what
the character of Satan is, and how flawed the argument against God
actually is. We are essentially the proving ground for the
exoneration of the governance of God.

I hope that helps.
Shingoshi Dao
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Continuing now with my response to you:
If we take the analogy of the petri dish, in which the sociological conditions of earth are to be examined by the inhabitants of the universe, we don't diminish the apparent cruelty of our condition. It might explain though the necessity of it. Everything that we experience would be considered the product of sin or evil or rebellion if you will. The hardship and cruelty then become emblematic of the conflict as it exists between good and evil. Yes, we're having to endure it. And I couldn't agree with you more that our condition is obscene. But can you think of any better way to confront and explain the consequences and threat of evil to the universe in a more sterile manner. I think the one thing we agree on is the existence of evil. At least that seems to be the very basis of your question, the acknowledgment of evil. And the sad thing is, there is no pretty or easy way of dealing with this. So here we are, and that's what we're stuck with.

I'm sorry for all of us. It is indeed cruel, and seemingly unjust. But then again, that's what evil is.

Shingoshi Dao

religous people are offended by this example, does this show the strength of the arguement?

Try GOOGLE.com bro

Suffering does not prove God does not exist.

HIV is not something a person who lives by good moral values would need to worry about.